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  • Why Do You Guys Rip Vinyl ?

    Even the most obscure 45's I have turn up on modern cd compilations these days. Do you guys really have that obscure a collection?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Mark-The-Shark View Post
    Even the most obscure 45's I have turn up on modern cd compilations these days. Do you guys really have that obscure a collection?
    Personally, I only rip my music so I can play it while on the move. I could take the CDs with me, in the car, but there's little point when a 320kbps mp3 sounds as good when there are so many other distractions. Plus, I can potentially carry over 40gigs worth with me on my Zen Touch (it can only take 20gigs at the moment, but I could upgrade the drive to 40gigs if I wanted).

    I can set up a playlist to cover an entire journey however long it is scheduled to take, without repetition - or set it to simply play random tracks.

    An mp3 player is extremely convenient. I have a 4 gig player too, and that is about a quarter of the size of a CD. The Touch is about 4 times thicker, but less than have the size of a CD otherwise.

    So it's purely for convenience, certainly not quality.

    I think most of us would agree we're first, and foremost, music lovers (and closet karaoke singers). Not techno junkies who require the best performance in every circumstance.


    • #3
      It's actually a very widespread myth that ripped vinyl must necessarily be of equal or lesser quality than a live playback.

      Because ripping is done without speakers (if it's done well), and because much of the quality of a turntable is defined by its immunity to acoustic and mechanical noise, listening to a record via digital recording can be far higher in quality than listening to the same record live.

      That doesn't explain why I record vinyl - my reasons are far more prosaic. I'm young enough that there never was a time when I wasn't listening to music on the computer. And I've been listening for close to 20 years.


      • #4
        I do it basically for the same reason as "FeiJi Fancier". I've always had an iPod since day one and have always had a mac by my side. I didn't however always have a super quality turntable or a gigantic record collection.

        I've always had some records around and prefer to listen to records for some time now but the iPod is always there where ever you go. I won't buy a CD if I can get the same thing on Vinyl, nor will I be seen carrying a stack of CDR's around when I can take an MP3 player around with 8000 songs on it. Vinyl can be dirty and dusty and you can give it a clean and it sounds great again, find it at a garage sale and pick out some cool finds and know you'll be able to listen to it when you get back home. A CD will scratch easily, sometimes not transfer nice into a computer, have digital flaws in it, etc. If I can't buy it or find it on vinyl than I buy my music off iTunes.

        That way I know it is of a high quality. The way I have it set up at home for recording is wonderful. I can listen to an album and record it directly to the computer at the same time. It's spinning on the turntable anyway, might as well pop it on the iPod after for the drive to/from work a day or two later.

        It sounds wonderful on my computer and I love it. CD's never appealed to me, just smaller cover art & flimsy disks. For me the iPod came first and it will be with me forever. That being said thou I do love my Technics TT's and every LP I own. Wouldn't trade that feeling of a record spinning and the wonderful sounds off it for anything.


        • #5
          I started doing vinyl to WAV/CD-R conversions about four years ago, so I could listen to favorite LPs in my Jeep. Friends and family began asking me to make transfers of their records and tapes. I developed it into a business, and added video transfers. I now do it full time.

          No doubt the majority of music on 78/45/LP/CASSETTE/8-TRACK has never been reissued on CD nor will it ever be. Even when older music is reissued, the record companies often do a lousy job, compress the hell out of it, or use subpar source material.

          My first exposure to truly bad commercial CDs was a reissue of The Fall's "Live At The Witch Trials" bought about twenty years ago. I owned the USA release on vinyl but bought the CD as it offered different songs as a UK release. I was shocked to discover the CD reissue was a transfer from a BAD SCRATCHED UP vinyl record. Worse yet, this was a legit release from a major record company and certainly not a bootleg.

          Besides lack of reissues of commercial recordings, there's a lot of home-made recordings out there. Some on disc from the 40s, 'acetates', and a helluva lot on cassette and reel to reel. Most of these are cherished family memories, e.g. an interview with Grandpa from 1975.

          There is a strong demand out there for audio & video transfers, and I've tapped into it. Customers are absolutely thrilled with the results. I can take beat-to-hell-and-back records, clean them thoroughly, play them on high-end equipment, and then clean up the WAV files. The end result is a CD that sounds far better than any playback experience the customer had with their crappy console record player 40-50 years ago.


          • #6
            I am about to start ripping or even recording LP's with a micrphone set up in my room. (trial and error with volumes and positions, just a bit of fun to see if I can capture what i hear with my set up - speaker are infinity Rsa's)
            I will try Tape REC Out to lap top via a dedicated external soundcard as well because it will be more convienient and less effected by external noises
            I have quckly tried using a small Sony voice recorder via the MIC input from the tape rec outputs on my Pioneer SX 550, I have a dual 1009 with Grado Blue. It worked but showed up a lot of extra noises. Albums that seemed really pure and clean were quite noisy when recorded.
            I guess I need to clean a little deeper (DIY method glass lazy susan, wet dry vac , 80/20 solution.

            WHY do it?

            I dont Ipod, i dont Itune, the last real digital music ripping i did was when napster were around. I can see that ipods have advantages but its bit like being at a party when someone finds the re-set button the juke box. Songs are skipped, partially played and the whole night is fragmented.

            My reason to record my Lp's is to capture one whole side of a recording,in its entirety as the artist intended it to be heard. Any imperfections (nuances)are unique to my collection and I can accept that, in fact i welome it.

            20 to 25 minutes is time well spent to enjoy a side of an LP that you have. And the last track on side one is always great, when that song is finished you just take a few moments to enjoy what you heard but it's a 20 minute journey to get there!!

            On the flip side (pardon the pun) if i can record well I can have the convenience of digital and not over play the vinyl, I dont plan to split the tracks into individual song. Obviously when I really want to enjoy my collection I'll spinning discs and not pushing buttons

            I'd like to hear your thoughts on and any obvious tips you might have.DAN

            PS POSt me if you want to hear some samples of what I come up with. I have should have a couple soon enough!